Oh, that's mostly for self-auditing (if one of your Beliefs goes too long without triggering maybe you should replace it). It can also be used as a reference for the trait Votes.VVhite-Crow wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 3:18 pmWoohoo!
I'm familiar with Epiphanies.I was speaking about the F, P and D next to your beliefs and instincts.
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I missed this earlier. Whenever you spend artha on a skill, you mark what you spent. This applies whether you succeed or not, and is how you shade your skills up to gray or white. The relevant quote is: "To shift to the next lighter shade, a player must spend a total of 3 deeds points, 10 persona points and 20 fate points. If a player has spent this much artha on one of his character’s abilities, then the ability immediately and permanently takes on its new shade."VVhite-Crow wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 8:32 pm When Artha- (or better Fate-) bloat becomes a thing and the vote doesn't handle it, I would gladly give Eric a veto right. And I'll stop voting on my own nominations.
Oh, btw. I never really understood why you note the amount of Artha you spent on BITs. There are spaces on the character sheet and MrHyde updated it on his Forum-sheet for Lilly, but I see no mechanic that interacts with it.
See the Epiphany section on page 69 of BWGR for details.
This is incredibly hard to do, and I've never seen it happen in play. But one day it will happen, I am sure of it, and super excited for it.

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I got the picture of a dwarfen lady poking bad ass looking, meditating Nutesh with glowing eyes with a long gnarly stick from outside a warding circle out of my head. Bonus points for the ancient ghost, standing a few meters (sorry, but imperial is bullshit
) off, shaking her head in disbelief.
I nominate Lilly for a humor trait point.

I nominate Lilly for a humor trait point.
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I think the bar for humor is going to be quite difficult to clear in PBP. I think I am okay agreeing with this, it is a funny image.
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...seconded.
(You mean Fate point?)

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Clearing and revising per earlier Discord convos...
"The appearance of power is power itself" was the first lesson of Alagash. I will overcome my fear of these creatures so as to remain respected among the group.
Summoning is the folly of the mad. I will keep Sabit and her misguided cult from pushing Suen into dangerous action.
...does that look okay to everyone? Happy for discussion.
Holding this one fulfilled. (His using the appearance of power to provide help in the DoW acted towards it; the opportunity otherwise is now passed.)"The appearance of power is power itself" was the first lesson of Alagash. I will use the power of his name to secure what I need to go find the Red Diamond.
"The appearance of power is power itself" was the first lesson of Alagash. I will overcome my fear of these creatures so as to remain respected among the group.
This was oriented to create intra-party interaction, but our Summoner PC is gone.Summoning is the folly of the mad. I will convince others not to summon beings too powerful for human ken, like Algash did.
Summoning is the folly of the mad. I will keep Sabit and her misguided cult from pushing Suen into dangerous action.
This is still good.I must learn magic to restore Ku-Aya to me permanently. I will find knowledge in Tekomel.

...does that look okay to everyone? Happy for discussion.
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I like the change, as the second Belief won't trigger now, and the update to the first is a great response to events.Marullus wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 7:33 pm Clearing and revising per earlier Discord convos...Holding this one fulfilled. (His using the appearance of power to provide help in the DoW acted towards it; the opportunity otherwise is now passed.)"The appearance of power is power itself" was the first lesson of Alagash. I will use the power of his name to secure what I need to go find the Red Diamond.
"The appearance of power is power itself" was the first lesson of Alagash. I will overcome my fear of these creatures so as to remain respected among the group.
This was oriented to create intra-party interaction, but our Summoner PC is gone.Summoning is the folly of the mad. I will convince others not to summon beings too powerful for human ken, like Algash did.
Summoning is the folly of the mad. I will keep Sabit and her misguided cult from pushing Suen into dangerous action.
This is still good.I must learn magic to restore Ku-Aya to me permanently. I will find knowledge in Tekomel.![]()
...does that look okay to everyone? Happy for discussion.
How does the rest of the group feel about the first Belief? Was it well fulfilled?
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Hm, Suen did what he could to bring in Algash... that being said, it wasn't all that relevant to the story...
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Well fulfilled is an excellent question for a vote.VVhite-Crow wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 6:15 pmHm, Suen did what he could to bring in Algash... that being said, it wasn't all that relevant to the story...

A clarification, though... my original intent was that the "Alagash's name" would be possible by using his Infamous Reputation on a circles test. They way we started didn't really lend to that, so my intent shifted to using the lesson itself (appearing powerful to win the DoW) and referencing "great wizards" was what I thought brought in Alagash, but objectively that was rather oblique. Also... the action came down more or less to one post (but perhaps that's just "the right moment" in Play by Post).
Marullus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:24 pm Nutesh's coldness takes no consideration for Mekertu's fears. The raven alights on his shoulder, its feathers smoking, as he also fixes the man with his imposing gaze. "The ways of the great wizards come with me," Nutesh says, describing some aspect of the ritual Mekertu has alluded to. "The last king, a wizard himself, began things you no longer comprehend - you apply grease but do not understand the wheel. You will come - You can only honor your people by doing so as otherwise nothing prevents the next catastrophe, draught, or harm. As he says, we deserve your aid, as no other will come that cares for your people."
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What are we asking here? If it has earned a Persona point as a Personal Goal? I'd say yes if you consider Nutesh considers having Mekertu as a second guide the "what I need to go find the Red Diamond"
If not, does Nutesh need permission to change a Belief?
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Yeah, I will change beliefs either way. Thanks for the BITS thread. This is a trait vote forn f he gets a Persona for helping to convince Merkutu.
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Well I'm gonna advocate for myself a bit:
- I'd say Oathsworn veered us into a nice direction with the Herzebuh scene.
- I'll also make the argument that tanking the Akhom attack and forcing him down under my firm, armoured grip is the quintessential Tough girl move
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Hm, both drove play but neither caused her any trouble... Sorry... :/hidetzugu wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2024 10:39 am Well I'm gonna advocate for myself a bit:
- I'd say Oathsworn veered us into a nice direction with the Herzebuh scene.
- I'll also make the argument that tanking the Akhom attack and forcing him down under my firm, armoured grip is the quintessential Tough girl move
Oh, and congratulations for the scout rank!

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Let me nominate Nutesh for all the Artha he deserves before he gets eaten
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1) 1 Fate for the 'Always check for ambushes and tails through Carrock's eyes.' Instinct got that distracted him and isolated him during the attack
2) 1 Fate for the Marked Character Trait which I'm gonna chose to belief was the reason the jackal spirit picked him
3) 1 Fate for the Gifted Trait for both triggering into Lawbreaker and dropping Nutesh!

1) 1 Fate for the 'Always check for ambushes and tails through Carrock's eyes.' Instinct got that distracted him and isolated him during the attack
2) 1 Fate for the Marked Character Trait which I'm gonna chose to belief was the reason the jackal spirit picked him
3) 1 Fate for the Gifted Trait for both triggering into Lawbreaker and dropping Nutesh!
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Thanks! 
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I agree with all three!hidetzugu wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 9:24 pm Let me nominate Nutesh for all the Artha he deserves before he gets eaten:
1) 1 Fate for the 'Always check for ambushes and tails through Carrock's eyes.' Instinct got that distracted him and isolated him during the attack
2) 1 Fate for the Marked Character Trait which I'm gonna chose to belief was the reason the jackal spirit picked him
3) 1 Fate for the Gifted Trait for both triggering into Lawbreaker and dropping Nutesh!
Farouk and Bassam are with Nutesh because Farouk followed his Belief to have an eye on Nutesh. I think that's worth a Belief-Fate as well.
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I second thatVVhite-Crow wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 5:56 am I agree with all three!
Farouk and Bassam are with Nutesh because Farouk followed his Belief to have an eye on Nutesh. I think that's worth a Belief-Fate as well.
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Agreed!VVhite-Crow wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 5:56 amI agree with all three!hidetzugu wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 9:24 pm Let me nominate Nutesh for all the Artha he deserves before he gets eaten:
1) 1 Fate for the 'Always check for ambushes and tails through Carrock's eyes.' Instinct got that distracted him and isolated him during the attack
2) 1 Fate for the Marked Character Trait which I'm gonna chose to belief was the reason the jackal spirit picked him
3) 1 Fate for the Gifted Trait for both triggering into Lawbreaker and dropping Nutesh!
Farouk and Bassam are with Nutesh because Farouk followed his Belief to have an eye on Nutesh. I think that's worth a Belief-Fate as well.
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I also agree. So tons of Fate for Nutesh and one for Farouk!