Laws are Like Sausages

[Stirling]

Marco Hulsebosch

"They were provided to me. and they were changed by me." respond Hiro.

which becomes an act of piracy. You have simply seized the vessel and now hold it to ransom.

Hiro makes an odd expression. "You are not making yourself clear. One share is an equal share. Everyone involved will end up with one share ownership of the trading company. For 38KCr you get one seventh ownership in the holding company owning the Train to the Stars and with 5MCr in assets. In addition you will receive your original 1/3% ownership on top of that. That is a better deal than even for myself or Lady Devereaux. I tried to be very respectful of your interest. I do not understand how you can accuse me of treating your interests like a 'meatless bone'. Your comment makes no sense to me."

The misunderstanding is on my part. I am used to situations where '1 Share' meant 1% (or as in Traveller char-gen, a ship share was equal to $1Mcr which equates to 1/65th value of a typical Safari ship valued at $65M).

I am very happy to 'buy in' to the trading company as an equal shareholder whilst retaining the marginal 0.3% ownership of the TTTS.

Mr. Hulsebosch: I can offer you a Military grade vacc suit with a built in grav belt system and on board computer, 2 standard explosives supply crates and a custom heavy caliber revolver and your grandfathers ring, which was found in his old stateroom. You can see it on the log entry. The value is approximately 395,000 credits in exchange for your share. If that is acceptable?

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Octavia pays Marcos 383 KCr for his 1/3% share in the TITLE

I came to the table with my marginal share and I intended to leave with the same, no less but also no more. I will send the heirloom ring to my daughter Cassiopeia. The equipment you offer can be included among the capital assets of the Trading Company. Though what you expect me to do with explosives and revolvers I can only imagine. Marco could imagine his years as a sapper and demolition engineer in the army precedes him

He hopes the 'paperwork' gets amicably approved and he can conclude his part in negotiations. He doesn't want to be a stumbling block or irritant to proceedings.

[KoboldStew]

Dev nods to Hiro, and is pleased as he puts Blue in his place.

She will not let her lawyer work for her. He has accomplished nothing and she dismisses him. She will provide whatever legal services are required this evening, and will retire to the ship when they are done. She is not eating dinner.

[bsongy]

Octavia said:
Mr. Hulsebosch: I can offer you a Military grade vacc suit with a built in grav belt system and on board computer, 2 standard explosives supply crates and a custom heavy caliber revolver and your grandfathers ring, which was found in his old stateroom. You can see it on the log entry. The value is approximately 395,000 credits in exchange for your share. If that is acceptable?

Hiro shakes his head in frustration. "Is it possible for this man to open his mouth without trying to change the deal? If the gear is actually worth that amount, why doesn't he just sell it for the cash, and pay Mr Hulseboch?! How did such a person get to his position of responsibility?" thinks Hiro to himself. Continuing his thoughts "If it was just me I would respond by raising the price demanded, and continuing raising it, till he finally met the terms. But I have the rest of the crew to think of."

Hiro looks to Marco, raising both hands in a helpless gesture, with a pained facial expression. If Marco express any misgivings about taking gear instead of cash, Hiro will re-enter discussions with Octavia.

After waiting a few minutes, in thought, Hiro stands suddenly.

To Octavia "I have wasted too many minutes of my lifespan with you."

Hiro walks over to the three bodyguards guarding Octavia. "I am looking to fill four security positions onboard the Train to the Stars. First month is a trial period, pays 4000Cr in cash for the month, which is double the standard rate. Paid upfront today. After the trial month, the senior officers will decide whether to offer a permanent position. If a permanent position is not offered, you will be provided a medium passage voucher, as part of the severance package. We depart imminently. If you wish to explore the offer, gather your personal possessions and report to The Train to the Stars." Hiro turns to Dev, and explains "Do not worry. These salaries are coming out of my personal funds."

To the entire room, Hiro says "I am going to prep The Train to the Stars for departure. Let me know via COMMS if I need to further assist with negotiations or if anyone does something stupid." and walks to the exit. At the door he turns, gives a short bow "Lady Deveraux. Mr Hulseboch." then exits.

Just outside the door, Hiro turns back yet again and says "Octavia. It should go without saying, but I am dealing with you so I will be abundantly clear. Mr Gunnar is a party to this deal. Treat him as a VIP. Any harassment, verbal abuse or poor treatment would be .....stupid. Let him take whatever gear he wants to. You do not want to go to option 3, the 'do something stupid' option, over a few thousand credits of gear, would you?"

Hiro, without waiting for a reply from Octavia, walks to the The Train to the Stars, enters and begins prepping the ship for departure, beginning with starting the drives.

[ateno]

The two lawyers and Dev leaves the room, Dev please roll an advocate.

Hiro walks over to the three bodyguards guarding Octavia. "I am looking to fill four security positions onboard the Train to the Stars. First month is a trial period, pays 4000Cr in cash for the month, which is double the standard rate. Paid upfront today. After the trial month, the senior officers will decide whether to offer a permanent position. If a permanent position is not offered, you will be provided a medium passage voucher, as part of the severance package. We depart imminently. If you wish to explore the offer, gather your personal possessions and report to The Train to the Stars." Hiro turns to Dev, and explains "Do not worry. These salaries are coming out of my personal funds."

Please roll bribery 3 separate times.

Just outside the door, Hiro turns back yet again and says "Octavia. It should go without saying, but I am dealing with you so I will be abundantly clear. Mr Gunnar is a party to this deal. Treat him as a VIP. Any harassment, verbal abuse or poor treatment would be .....stupid. Let him take whatever gear he wants to. You do not want to go to option 3, the 'do something stupid' option, over a few thousand credits of gear, would you?"

Octavia: "I thought a close interaction with the three of you would possibly spur a changing of employers, that is why I used my most recent hire. your welcome to him. By the way. don't leave yet, we have some art objects and cargo to load on to your ship. I will also require your yacht ship codes before you take off."

Octavia waits politely for any response and for Hiro to leave the room. "With the 2 primaries put of the room, can I get the 3 of you to sign for the money and small jewels and jewelry? Also, Garrett, I will need the tablet back to remove all my backdoors to the ship, once Hiro gives me his yacht codes

He looks at Marco, Monte and Garrett.

Hiro, as you approach the ship, you see cargo mover and some activity, people are moving cargo containers to the rear of your ship.

[Stirling]

Marco Hulsebosch

So my understanding is: Marco

Receive granddad's ring. (sends to Cassiopeia)
Pays 1 credit to legitimise his continued 0.3% ownership of TTTS.
Pays 38kcr to become an equal partner in the newly formed TTTS trading company.

Receive kit of advanced tec Vacc-suit, demotions trade gear and crafted revolver.

or if anyone does something stupid.

he smiles but doesn't point out the irony that he feels Watanabe San may have. It is simply based on not trusting Mr Blue who I think may feel he has lost face even though the trading and negotiations might work out more financially in his favour. Two ships for one.

I am fine to conclude my part in any further talk and will proceed to the ship.

[ateno]

Marco Hulsebosch

I am fine to conclude my part in any further talk and will proceed to the ship.

Are you going to sign for the portable wealth?

[The Bindoner]

Monty straightens his posture and leans forward, picking up the pen: If signing transfers them to my custody, I'll put my signature on seeing the items I'm signing for. Having sat through that I'd not want to have to explain to anyone why I'd not got the things they spent so long wrangling over.

[ateno]

Monty straightens his posture and leans forward, picking up the pen: If signing transfers them to my custody, I'll put my signature on seeing the items I'm signing for. Having sat through that I'd not want to have to explain to anyone why I'd not got the things they spent so long wrangling over.

Octavia: "Of course, of course, a couple moments.

A large wheeled lockbox comes in with a guard. After opening it in your sight and making sure you know the combo. You look inside.

There is a block of 100 credit bills in 10,000 credit stack in almost a meter square in size, plastic sealed with a signature and attestation from the Koininkrijk world bank sealed under the plastic that its a million credits . if you check, and grab randomly and look, you see nothing out of order.

There are bags of various colored precious stones and enough jewelry including a crown for a counts household.

Garrett comes alongside you. "Monte, I'm Garrett, I was in the turret when you were shooting at the others. I'm a archeologist by trade, so I will help.

He looks at the jewels and thinks the crown is a piece needing research. "It might be of historical interest."

Overall it appears to be what the paper is.

Assuming you agree, the guard has both of you sign for the Train and gives you a copy. "Lockbox is free."

[bsongy]

GM asked:
Please roll bribery 3 separate times.

Though Hiro is skilled in streetwise, deception and persuasion, he has no skill in bribery.
Yet, he will still give it his best effort.
[2d6-4]=5-4=1
[2d6-4]=6-4=2
[2d6-4]=6-4=2

I do not think any of those succeeded. LOL

Octavia said:
I will also require your yacht ship codes before you take off."

Hiro transmits the access codes for the Yacht to Dev. "Lady Deveraux now has them. She will provide them when the paperwork is completed."

GM said:
Hiro, as you approach the ship, you see cargo mover and some activity, people are moving cargo containers to the rear of your ship.

Thinking that this cargo represents the fulfillment payment to the trading company, Hiro inventories the cargo, double checks the inventory tags and weights, checks the cargo for stowaways, and sends the list of cargo to Dev to asses if this meets the payment criteria. Hiro watches while the cargo is loaded, insures it is secured in the cargo bay, that all of the stevedores are off ship, then double checks that all the exterior access points are secured. Then he proceeds to prep the starship for departure.

[The Bindoner]

Monte peremptorily checks the contents of the box against the list and steps aside to let Garret examine those items he thinks interesting.

Off-handedly he comments: I doubt it's that interesting, or Mr Octavia would have valued it higher.

In fact he thinks it probably is worth research, but he doesn't want to encourage renegotiation at this stage.

Once Garret has finished his inspection Monte closes the container without bothering to re-lock it. Doesn't seem worth it, anyone likely to steal it knows the code, I should think, eh Garret?

Thanks for holding fire in the turret the other day by-the-way. Good discipline for a civvy.

Monte waits for confirmation that business is concluded before escorting the lockbox to the ship.

[ateno]

GM asked:
Please roll bribery 3 separate times.

Though Hiro is skilled in streetwise, deception and persuasion, he has no skill in bribery.
Yet, he will still give it his best effort.
[2d6-4]=5-4=1
[2d6-4]=6-4=2
[2d6-4]=6-4=2

I do not think any of those succeeded. LOL

+1 for INT
I will take streetwise at a 10 and add one for the amount of the bribe, target number 9. so your rolls at 7,8,8.
Same outcome would be used for persuasion at normal. 0+1

One guard remains stone face two other behind Octavia move slightly and look at each other out of the side of their eyes and remain standing.
Oh well worth a shot.

Octavia said:
I will also require your yacht ship codes before you take off."

Hiro transmits the access codes for the Yacht to Dev. "Lady Deveraux now has them. She will provide them when the paperwork is completed."

Octavia: Agreed, I will wipe my remote access and hand the tablet to Dev when they finish redrawing up the agreement."

GM said:
Hiro, as you approach the ship, you see cargo mover and some activity, people are moving cargo containers to the rear of your ship.

Thinking that this cargo represents the fulfillment payment to the trading company, Hiro inventories the cargo, double checks the inventory tags and weights, checks the cargo for stowaways, and sends the list of cargo to Dev to asses if this meets the payment criteria. Hiro watches while the cargo is loaded, insures it is secured in the cargo bay, that all of the stevedores are off ship, then double checks that all the exterior access points are secured. Then he proceeds to prep the starship for departure.

As you approach you can see Gunnar talking with a guard at the small grav vechicles, it looks like he's handing him some money and the guard points him at a small grav cycle.
Gunnar I was waiting for this moment.

After dealing with Gunnar;

All the paperwork matches, Advanced Electronics, Medical Supplies, Pharmaceuticals, Luxury Goods and a few Objet d'art. Bonded estimates are just short of 3 million. One of the workers hand you a paperwork showing there is more to load on at the starport, basically the right and key code to open and empty a locker at the starport, its more artwork, boxed for shipment.

One of the workers bump into you and drops his mask by accident. "Excuse me sir." He stands up holding his mask and you can tell its Nevri the flyer, and he is asking with his eyes.

[ateno]

Monte peremptorily checks the contents of the box against the list and steps aside to let Garret examine those items he thinks interesting.

Thanks for holding fire in the turret the other day by-the-way. Good discipline for a civvy.

Garrett: "Funny that, I did not have power to charge the plasma gun, only local to move it, I don't know how to use the weapon. You said your a gunner, right?"

The two of you and perhaps Marco head back to the ship. The ship is about halfway loaded. Hiro is overseeing.

[ateno]

Dev:

Tyner Redtray had a previous version of the agreement available, he asks the three of us propose changes showing the negotiation as it was left and then they can all kibitz on the changes and agree on the new entries for signature. Then we can exchange titles and security codes then.

IF you agree to this roll Advocate.

[Stirling]

Marco Hulsebosch

Concluded the dealings with Octavia Blue and his lawyer Rutta, signing whatever release and transfer papers.

He has things to organise in terms of getting his own gear transferred from starport locker to ship quarters but those I suspect are fairly routine courier duties he can comission to a reliable stevedore.

He will approach Dev and Hiro at a suitable time in regard to the Trading Company assets management, trading vision, security and general "what is the plan" and also meet and greet the other crew members.

If the time synchronises, he becomes a trio with the other pair, Garrett and Monte, as they make their way to the craft.

[The Bindoner]

Monte peremptorily checks the contents of the box against the list and steps aside to let Garret examine those items he thinks interesting.

Thanks for holding fire in the turret the other day by-the-way. Good discipline for a civvy.

Garrett: "Funny that, I did not have power to charge the plasma gun, only local to move it, I don't know how to use the weapon. You said your a gunner, right?"

The two of you and perhaps Marco head back to the ship. The ship is about halfway loaded. Hiro is overseeing.

Monte laughs. A good bluff, the sort no-one dares call!

Walking to the ship: Yes, I was a Gunner. M-Drive engineer too. None of the glamour of Flight or Command, but they'd be paper tigers without us.

[KoboldStew]

Dev Advocate: 2d6+1=7 (plus any mods from the negotiations so far).

[bsongy]

Advanced Electronics, Medical Supplies, Pharmaceuticals, Luxury Goods and a few Objet d'art. Bonded estimates are just short of 3 million.

Hiro informs Dev the details about the cargo.

How many displacement tonnes of each? Just for planning how much spare cargo room we have.

One of the workers bump into you and drops his mask by accident. "Excuse me sir." He stands up holding his mask and you can tell its Nevri the flyer, and he is asking with his eyes.

Hiro offers Nevru the same deal offered to the bodyguards. "You will start as serving as security, but you have a month to impress the officers." Hiro thinks then adds "If there is any reason not to trust the other people we are hiring here, let me know."

[ateno]

Dev Advocate: 2d6+1=7 (plus any mods from the negotiations so far).

You get a +1 due to INT, I will try and post some more rules later.

Tyner finds some punctuation and ownership tense use misapplications which is high level stuff and Mr. Rutta agrees. and after a hour and a half the agreement is finalized, titles (such that Hiro's is) are transferred and codes and backdoors are shown and traded or closed.

Unless you have any questions, the ships ownership are transferred.

[ateno]

How many displacement tonnes of each? Just for planning how much spare cargo room we have.

Pharmaceuticals - 3 tons
Advanced Electronics - 4 tons
Medical supplies - 14 tons
Luxury goods - 5 tons
Objects of art - 1.5 tons Mostly protective packaging

Objects of art-
Marble and gold carved statue of a 200 kilo chaser titled 'On the Hunt' - by Gery DePAsculle 207K
Agate vase 1/4 meter tall, carved in one piece - ancient artist unknown 106k
Painting on layered linen "Searching for Hope" Contemporary, child witching for water, by revolutionary artist Nara Yosh during the pre revolution Imperial oppression of Banyeogja. 90k
A selection of primitive bowl, jars and vases. 41k
Art installation "Shapes" by WowZee 22K
14 paintings of various artists, varying styles, shapes and values 9k

Total 2,875,000 credits, with cash = 4,375,000. Still owed 625,000.

Hiro offers Nevru the same deal offered to the bodyguards. "You will start as serving as security, but you have a month to impress the officers." Hiro thinks then adds "If there is any reason not to trust the other people we are hiring here, let me know."

Nevri: "Agreed, I'm more a flyer, but I will do what you want to get out. My gear will be in a small grey container with a red tag, no paperwork. I'll research your small boat in the meantime. When should I be here for a quick boarding?"

He still appears afraid of backlash of Octavia

[bsongy]

Nevri asked:
When should I be here for a quick boarding?"


Hiro hands Nevri a 5km Comm unit, from his personal equipment "I will broadcast a 'Departure in 15 minutes' and a 'Departure in 5'.
Be on board before we seal up. You can return the comm unit after you are onboard."